
Adventures In Good Health
A firm believer that we are responsible for our own health, and knowledge of our options - including understanding herbs - is key to living a healthy life, David Maloof shares his journey into natural approaches to good health.
Herbs have been used for a very long time, and they have improved the lives of millions of people. But how do herbs actually help people? How do herbs work and what do they do? What should we know about herbal health?
David enlists the help of noted herbalist, naturopaths and experts to better understand the world of natural health. If this podcast sounds interesting, then you are invited to join the journey to natural approaches to good health.
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Adventures In Good Health
Ep 25: Doc's Herbal Corner: Cascara sagrada | Dr. Stephen Tates
In this episode of Doc's Herbal Corner, our host, David Maloof, discusses the herb Cascara sagrada, which is known for its laxative properties, with Master Herbalist, Dr. Stephen Tates. The importance of regular bowel movements is emphasized, as constipation can lead to various health issues.
Dr. Tates explains how waste can ferment and spoil in the intestines, causing discomfort and contributing to diseases. Cascara sagrada is described as a gentle laxative that helps move waste out of the body without causing cramping. The risks and concerns of taking cascara sagrada are also discussed, along with its benefits for colonoscopy preparation and hemorrhoid problems. The episode concludes with information on how to reach the Dr. Tates for further questions or consultations.
Takeaways
- Regular bowel movements are essential for good health, and constipation can lead to various physical and mental health issues.
- Cascara sagrada is a gentle herbal laxative that helps move waste out of the body without causing cramping.
- Excessive cleansing and diarrhea are forms of constipation and can be harmful to the body.
- Traveling and stress can disrupt bowel movements, and maintaining a healthy diet and hydration is important while on the go.
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Some people will take something to help their bowels to move and they end up with diarrhea. And they think that, oh, I have diarrhea, so I'm doing excessive cleansing. Diarrhea is a form of constipation because the only thing you're losing is colored water, mostly.
Hello everyone, welcome to Adventures in Good Health, I'm your host David Maloof and you have entered Doc's Herbal Corner. This episode represents the first Doc's Herbal Corner that is in the form of a video in addition to podcast. And to help celebrate, before we get into the actual episode, I want to show you a little blast from the past. So, what we have right here.
is an old television show, so you may not realize this, but Adventures in Good Health and Doc's Herbal Corner used to be a TV show in the early part of this century.
There's Doc. I mean, I love the outfit. So, Doc has been doing this for a very long time. And if you're interested in viewing his old episodes, they're all on YouTube. There'll be a link in the description. Okay, so now we're going to jump right into Doc's Herbal Corner as Doc attempts to stump me with an herb I've never heard of. Hello, Doc. Welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me. All right, Doc, what herb or which herb are we gonna talk about today? We're gonna talk about cascara sagrada. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait, wait. Cascara sagrada. Two different words. Most people just say cascara because there's no other herb that's named like that. Okay, so that was about to say, so we've done a number of these episodes of Doc's Herbal Corner.
This is the first time you've mentioned an herb I've never heard of. So. Oh, as we go deeper into the podcast. Yeah. See, I'm doing the familiar stuff in the beginning. Okay. Then I can reach into my bag and come up with things that will have you looking like, who? What? All right, hey, that's what this podcast is all about. So, enlighten us.
Okay, well, before I talk about the Cascara, well, in conjunction with that, I'm going to mention one of the things that cascara helps with and why that's important. Cascara is an herb to help the bowels to move. So, it's a laxative herb, you know, to get the bowels to move. Now, why is that important?
90% of the diseases we suffer with, starts with dehydration, sleep deprivation, constipation, not necessarily in that order. And the average patient that I see when I ask them as part of my protocol question, how frequently is your bowel movement? And they say regular. I say, what is regular? You know, two, three times a week.
That's not regular, you know. Supposed to have bowel movement every day. No, no, that's unnatural to have bowel movement every day. Now, two or three times a week, that's plenty. But when you digest food...
There's a digestion and assimilation and should be elimination of the waste byproduct from the food you're eating, assuming that you eat something that the body actually digest. Right. Babies, when you feed babies, they're gonna have bowel movement. Sometimes you can just wave food in front of them and they can really have bowel movement. If you have pets like dogs or cats, especially dogs, and you feed the dog,
What you gotta do? Shortly afterwards, you gotta take that dog for a walk. So, normal bowel movement should be at least once for every meal, or a couple of times a day, good movement, if we're not eating much that day. If we do not, that food sits in the body, the weight starts to expand, and then you have some horrific...
fermentation and spoiling. Kind of like when you cook the meal and you had leftovers from that meal. You had leftovers in a pot or a Tupperware bowl. Tell my age when it's a Tupperware bowl. But Tupperware bowl, you slide into the refrigerator.
Three, four weeks later, you see that part of the Tupperware book. You don't even remember what was in it. But you know it's been in there so long, you don't even want to look. Something is still, but it's still growing. Yeah, but it grows. It's not good. Yeah, and it grows in the refrigerator. Yeah.
And it covered things because it fermented and spoiled, and you got all this fungus and white hair and bacteria and germs from food that's been left in the refrigerator. And now a quick word from our sponsor, Dr. Tate's Herbal Tinctures and Tonics. Dr. Tate's offers the herbal blood tonic, DOCS detox, herbal male tonic, herbal female tonic,
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fungus and white hair and bacteria and germs from food that's been left in the refrigerator too long. Now that same kind of fermentation and spoiling goes on in our large and small intestines. You can see the inside of our body
is a furnace. Now, the outside might be cold, poor circulation and stuff, which is a subject for another time, but that stuff ferments and spoils in our gut, in our intestinal areas, down there, the abdominal, navel area, it ferments, and it spoils. And then it backs up and through the system like a stopped-up sink. Because many a time, lung sinus issues
come from a backup of waste that came from the intestinal area in the body. Because it's not moving out this way, so it's backing up into the system, starts to get into the blood, starts to saturate the whole body. 90% of our conditions start with four or five different things. And, and, poor bowel movement.
is right up there to this. Yeah, lack of water, sleep deprivation, breathing, all that stuff falls in there too. But constipation is right up there near the top. When you average that two, three bowel movements a day, you're storing poisons that could end up creating, contributing to high blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes, memory and concentration problems.
senility, you know, mood shifts. It can just affect everything in the body as this stuff is backed up and spoiled in the body, which is why the lack to the industry is such a multi-trillion-dollar business because the average person is clogged and is constipated. Of course, a lot of stuff that's on the market is junk.
you know, or temporary fix and best, but that accumulates, you know, and it contributes to so, so many physical problems and mood shifts. And so we want to make sure that we're getting good bowel movements. So our listeners understand that, you know, if you fall in that category of bowel movement every other day, or small amounts once a day.
Well, you're acutely constipated. If you're going like three, four days on a regular basis, then you're chronically constipated. And then it fills up the intestines, and then there's no more room. So what happens when there's no more room to store that food waste that didn't get eliminated? We expand, you know, expand out so that weight gain.
is not fat. It's stored up food waste and poisons and toxins. And I have some of my patients say, could you describe that differently? No, it's toxic waste, you know, just like it needs to expel from the body. Yeah.
It chokes the body. It backs up into the system. So for our survival, it's got to be moved out of our body. And my understanding of that process also is that the longer it stays in your body, you know, your body is going to try to draw liquid out. And it's not really being that successful, but that helps explain why some people have very uncomfortable bowel movements.
because it's more solidified and drier than, and I'm not using medical terms, but that's my interpretation of that process. It can get hard as concrete. Yeah. Okay. And it can stick to the linings in the intestines like glue, especially from what we're eating. And when you're 10 pounds, 20 pounds, 100 pounds overweight.
That's old, fermented, toxic food waste. And the reason why I word it this way, because some people say, oh, I got the middle-aged spread. Or, you know, it's just, you know, as we get older, that, you know, we're going to gain that weight. But as we get older and we're gaining the weight, we put our body in danger. And people you see...
in the 70s, 80s, 90s that are pretty healthy and very active. They're smaller frame people. The older you get and the more weight you hold, the more you bring yourself to premature death because of that stored up stuff that gets everywhere and affects memory and concentration because that same fermented food waste, it gets up in here. Oh yeah.
Okay. That's not a good place to start. There's no good side. No good side. So you need to expel and you need to expel on a regular basis. And what happens is some people will say, well, I mean, I go every other day or every three days and I've been doing that for decades and decades. That's normal for me. And it sounds like what you're saying is that's not normal. That's not healthy. Anybody.
It's not normal for anybody. I've heard some physicians say, well, everybody's bowels move different. Yeah, on a daily basis, but not on a weekly basis. So it's stored. Some signs from the body that tell you that it's skin rashes and skin eruptions because the body's trying to throw waste out through the skin, which is not effective. Gas and bloating, you know, because it's storing up gas and stuff
are solid waste, fluid, gas, more solid waste, fluid, gas, building up over the decades in the body, you know, and it starts to break down the system. So there's other things that would need to be done to help with deflection, but our subject matter is on Cascara, okay? Now the reason why I picked Cascara is because there's some other laxative verbs, but...
they could possibly be too strong. You know, it makes some, you know, some people feel like they're going into labor because it's like, it's hitting that concrete and there's a little silver wall going on the inside of your body trying to get stuff to move. Cascara is strong, but more gentle on the system, you know? So it helps loosen up the waist.
And then in turn it's helping the body be able to help itself by helping the body start to eliminate what's stored in the body. When you go from two, three times a week or once, twice a week to every day, you're slowing down the aging, you're reversing the aging. That's an anti-aging process because now you're removing stuff.
There's other stuff we've got to do like drink water and stuff, obviously, and exercise and watch what you're eating. But you're starting a process that starts to bring back health or keep you from having nightmares down the road. Okay. So is this like, we wouldn't wait to describe this herb as nature's herbal laxative? Yeah.
Yeah, that would be a perfect term. Yeah, that would be the perfect term. Is it the root? Is it the leaf? It's the bark. Oh, it's the bark. It's the bark of the tree. I'm hearing your Boston accent, Doc. It's the bark. Yeah, bark, the car, and Harvard Yard. All right. I'll do a little more Midwestern. It's the bark.
It's a bark. All right. It's the bark of the tree, not the root of the tree. It's the dried bark. And Cascara used to be listed in the medical journals as one of the things we would take. But Nick was back a few years ago. It was taken out.
and has now been labeled as a supplement. But it was before listed as over-the-counter medicine. So it was in the pediatricians and stuff, physicians just references in the day. There was a bunch of herbs that was listed. But then they say, well, there's no scientific proof to cause God will work, or take it to be proof. But they said there's no scientific evidence.
But that's a contradiction because there's no scientific evidence because you've never wanted to do the scientific research. So of course there's no evidence because you refuse to research it. Because then that affects the pharmaceutical industry because laxatives has always been like drugs for impotency.
you know, big cash cows, you know. Yeah, because if you go into a drug store or a grocery store, I mean, you'll see an entire section for laxatives. All kinds of stuff. And it's actually quite amazing, the range and the variety. And some of them can work. Some can work. But sometimes they work a little too well.
It causes other problems or others. It's like you wait and you wait and you wait and you get impatient. You take a little more and you take a little more and then boom. Yeah. And then I want to add another thing before we go back into the cascara. You know, because this is the theme of why cascara can be so good. Right. Is that some people will take something to help their bowels to move and they end up with diarrhea. Right. And they think that
Oh, I have diarrhea, so I'm doing excessive cleansing. Diarrhea is a form of constipation because the only thing you're losing is colored water mostly. It's an irritation, like irritable bowel symptoms. It's an irritation, but it's not that solid movement type of thing. Well, that's a good clarification. Now, I'm not gonna go into the description of how it looks when it's in the commode to know that it's solid cleansing.
We won't go there. It's a PC kind of thing, but you would notice a difference, you know? Now, the dry bark is with you. It stimulates the bowels to move. It's like tickling the intestines, you know?
It's not like grabbing and trying to yank out of the system, which causes that cramping and stuff. Because you can take some lactose and feel like you're delivering a baby, you know, because it cramps you up so much. So it kind of tickles and kind of, you know, kind of loosens up the muscles, loosens up the waste that's stuck on the muscles, excuse me, be phrased that, and it helps it move. It doesn't cause any cramping unless...
you get carried away. And I've met people that, the Cascara, you know, two to four a day, but not every day. I've had people that do two to four, two to three times a day. Not good, not good because that's too harsh and then the body's gonna react and shut down. But sometimes when you take something to help cleanse, like a laxative, like Cascara.
and we do too much, the body out of self-defense shuts down, the intestines, so now nothing's moving for a minute. Okay, so you're saying, just so I understand, if you're saying that if someone takes too much of the cascara, then that can cause problems as well. That can do the reverse. That does the reverse. All right, so does it, go ahead. No, well, go ahead, you know. Well, I'm just curious, I mean, so.
What is the form that it comes in? Is it a powder? Does it come in capsules? The best way to take it is in capsules. Like come in capsules. The veggie cap. Because the tea, let's just say it has a unique flavor to it. And the best way to take the cascara is the bark form that's been ground up into a powder and is in the veggie caps. Because then the veggie caps break up.
you know, when it comes across fluid inside the body and it breaks up in your gut or your navel, your intestinal area, it starts having a little war, shaking up and loosening the waist to help that to move. So it chemically stimulates the bowels to move, used to help empty the colon. Now some people that, say you're scheduled for colonoscopy, you know, in a few days.
The cascara can be really helpful because then you're moving out some of the waste, you know, having extra waste moved out, which makes the whole colonoscopy experience, which is not really a great experience, but makes it easier, you know, for them to do their thing because it doesn't have to go through blockages. Constipation is so bad that I have friends who are plumbers, okay?
And what those seeds, the sticks in the plumbing, the clogs up, the plumbing in your house is undigested food and undigested capsules from the lawn kinds of thing. With the cascara, it blends in and absorbs into the system and loosens up stuff.
to help not only the bowel movement, but also helps move gas out of the body. Because the gas blockages was part of what bloats us up from the fermentation and spoiling, which is why sometimes if somebody releases some gas, they're like, oh my, you're doing like this. That's that fermentation and spoiling from the waste that was sitting in the body.
over this extended period of time. Okay. So, so someone, they can, they can get the tonic. I just not the time. People can get the, you know, the Cascara in capsule format.
I'm going to assume that there's going to be directions on whatever brand that someone gets. There should be directions on that box. Should be directions. So they should follow those directions. Are there any concerns or risks? Absolutely. Okay. Anytime, you know, anytime you're dealing with an area that's clogged and you don't know.
the side effects or you're on medication or you have certain conditions, you know, that means it's something that you can't take now. And I had that listed. If you have GI disorders or gastrointestinal disorder, if you have ulcerated colon, you know, those are irritating. Appendicitis, which is basically stuff stuck, you know.
on stomach ulcers, you know. One of the things that's nice about Cascara though, is it helps loosen and soften up the food waste or waste in the body that can help move it out of the system, especially even when you have hemorrhoid problems. Because typically hemorrhoid problems come from people who are straining.
to try to get the bowels to move, and stuff is just stuck. I mean, because it can literally, that waste literally can get as hot as concrete. You know, you got waste, gas, waste, gas, in layers in our intestine. And then say the opening for our intestines is like this. It gets smaller and smaller and smaller, till it's like a pinhole.
And that waste is hardened along the lining of the larynx and small intestine. So you take something that's a powerful laxative, it's pushing up that waste to the back area of your body, which is causing hemorrhoids, which is like a problem because in order to deal with the hemorrhoids, you've got to get bowel movement.
But that pushing with the wrist, to help the bowels to move, is contributing to the growth of the hemorrhoid. Because scar is one of those things, and then our fat burners, something else we'll go to another time, soften stuff up. Helps the hemorrhoid shrink because you're getting the bowel movement. The only way the hemorrhoids permanently go away is when you have consistent bowel movement.
and you're not having to strain. I've had people that have literally said that they sit in the bathroom 30, 40, 45 minutes, every morning, trying to get a little bit of something moving. Yeah. Well, drinking more water will help, you know, doing the cascara, but then even with the cascara, it's not something you wanna do every day.
If you stop, you might want to do a couple of days in a row. Okay. Then you want to do every other day, because it can be too much too quick. So you want to get the body to start to respond right with the cascara. And it will do a lot to help just soften it up. Very, very similar to...
Correct all of something that's over the counter chemical, you know, that was designed to soften. Sometimes it works with people temporarily, but then when you stop, their body clogs back up. What about, so there are some people who, on their normal day to day, they're going on a reasonably healthy basis. But as soon as they start to travel,
Boom, it's like their body just stops. And potentially for as long as they're traveling, which could be a week, they don't go. And then when they get home, they get back to normal. Is this an herb that would have any effect on that? Or is that, that scenario I just described, a different type of situation? Well, two things, the kaskara we're doing, one of our products will help.
Drinking a lot of water will help. You know, sometimes people when they drive and they don't want to drink a lot of water because they have to maybe make frequent stops. But then it's also the mode of traveling. If you're sitting and driving for long periods of time, that sitting motion, you know, like this is the seat and you're sitting on your prostate and on your colon and it's smashing it down.
I mean, long-term driving contributes to prostate problems because stuff is not moving. Long-term driving crushes and flattens the intestinal system where a bowel can't move through an area that's flat and not open like this. So long-term driving can contribute to that.
Long plane rides, if you're going overseas, say you're leaving this country, and you're traveling to Europe or to Africa or something, and you're on that plane for long hours, I tell people you get up, you move around, you stretch a little bit if you can't, you stop frequently just to move the body and loosen it up, but when you're like, I gotta get there, I gotta get there, well, what you've done.
is you put pressure on your colon and then stuff doesn't move the way it needs to. And then you add stress, you know, people on a deadline or just stress with driving or being in a car, that stress takes a lot of that nerve energy that will be used to help the bowels to move and is transferred over to deal with the stored up stress.
Okay. In the body. Am I making sense with this? Yeah, you are. And I do wonder about the stress. I do wonder about, you know, a lot of people get into a time pattern. Their body gets like a body clock. And when you travel, often your toll schedule gets totally thrown off. You're out to be at the airport at five in the morning, and it all just gets thrown out the wheel.
In a little bit of my research, I guess some doctors have indicated they think it could be as much psychological, that you're not comfortable, that you're in unfamiliar areas. Yeah, that's a major part of it. And then a lot of times, people don't pack enough good, healthy, high-fiber food to munch on while they're traveling. They're stopping in, I won't name any...
you know, truck stop kind of places, but people know what's out there on the road, and you're eating all that junk, which only Claus can constipate you while you're driving, or some of those real traditional truck stops, where the truckers eat, you know? So when you're traveling on the road...
You want to pack some fruit. You want to have your water. You want to have your vegetables. If you're doing foods, you want high fiber foods like brown rice or wild rice or quinoa, you know, fresh salmon and stuff that you can munch on. Now, one of the things you don't want to eat when you're traveling is nuts. Another thing you don't want to eat a lot of at one time.
especially peanuts but nuts period because fruits and vegetables and whole grains have some cleansing ability to help the bowel movement and then along with taking the cascara it kind of works as a good match. Nuts have no blood or bowel cleansing quality to it.
They're an energy food. You take out a small portion, they build the muscles, they build the tone, but if you don't, if you eat too much, it will lock up your bowels. Now.
I want to give a personal example because people love stories. When I make mistakes in my learning process over the years, people say, you're telling me what you did wrong. I'm telling you what I did wrong because I'm human too, as I was learning the process of taking care of you. Now, this is like a few years ago. OK.
I'm 72 now, so we're going to say it's been a few decades ago. All right. And I was living in Houston. And they had this health food store, David, they had these tamari roasted cashews. Oh, man, that was phenomenal taste. Okay. I was eating a pound of the tamari roasted cashews.
every day. You are a good customer. Yeah, I'll always be back. Buy a pound of this a day. Oh, I'm munching on them because I think it was Tamari taste with the cashews. I ate and ate and ate until it locked up my bowels like cement. The pain, the hemorrhoids, the clogging.
was so, so unbelievable. I mean, I was laying on the floor next to the bed, almost in tears because what happened was my bowels were, it shut down. Oh wow. It shut down.
You know, and I'm trying to, you know, take some herbs, take some enemas. My body was laughing at me. Ha ha ha. You shouldn't eat as much. It reached a point now I'm saying this because a lot of people who experienced this, but don't like talking about it, you know, and I'm bringing stuff out. That pain was so bad. I'm going to be honest with you. I got down on my knees. You need this and Lord just take me.
No. Just, you know, I'm through, just, you know. Well, I'm glad he didn't. No, I'm glad he didn't either, but I mean, it can feel like that. I'm emphasizing this even more than the Cascara to understand how effective the Cascara could be with these conditions that we create. Now, constipation all by itself elevates your blood pressure, elevates your blood sugar.
Increases the cholesterol, you know, damages your heart, you know, slows down the body's metabolism, affects memory and concentration. We'll end up building this fungus and bacteria that eventually can create precancerous and cancerous cells in the body. We call that auto-intoxication in the natural healing realm. The body's intoxicated on its own waste. So...
If you're not having a regular bowel movement, you want to do something. The fiber foods, the water, the cascara, used right. Not every day. Two days in a row maybe. Every other day would work. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. To help the body be able to help itself.
Then when you're drinking water and doing your exercise, you're doing your fiber foods and stuff, that combination, along with something like the cascara, ends up being safe. There are other herbs which we'll go through with some of the tonics and stuff that does that same thing. But the subject today is an herb that, you know, I know a lot of people have never heard of before, you know, cascara, you know, because it can be effective.
and it can be something good that you travel with, that won't have you side of the bed saying, Lord, take me. And carrying stuff because it's helping loosen up that stuff and makes that stuff work so much better. So Doc, this is why I love that we do this series. There's so many herbs. It looks like there's hundreds of them. I mean, I've looked up a lot of the herbs in the encyclopedia.
There's hundreds of them. It's gonna be really interesting to see, you know, which ones you choose to talk about and for us to learn about. But this was a new herb for me. And it sounds like it potentially has some benefit for people. Well, potentially anything that helps the bowels move safely without the cramping and irritation and discomforts because you don't need that.
is going to help. You know, our fat burner, which one of these podcasts we're going to go through, helps do that. The cascara is an independent herb in capsule form, you know, that will help do that. There's some herbs that are really good and there's some that I like to do, but...
They can be destructive based on your health condition and based on your eating habits and stuff that is not worth doing if you're not going to do the other things you need to do for your body. Water is very important because water softens up stuff. So when you're drinking plenty of water and doing fiber, and you're doing something like the Cascara, you're getting that good movement. Now, the beauty is...
Once you get that two, maybe three bowel movements a day because you change your eating habits and lifestyle, you're not required to do the cascara all the time. If you still have weight and stuff, you wanna do it maybe once, twice a week to help accelerate the movement and help the body remove waste from the system. Perfect. All right, Doc, if anyone has any questions about this herb or any other questions, how can they reach you?
But you can call me at 404-943-1171. That number again is 404-943-1171. And like I've said in previous podcasts, you want extra time with me on the phone. You gotta mention that you're a podcast viewer and you've liked us and all that kind of other stuff. You can check that out.
Absolutely, because that's somebody that, you know, I have two kind of people. You know, both people want change. Some people are not willing to do the things they need to do to improve their health and make change. Then there's a group of people that are willing to listen and do whatever needs to be done. I like those people more. I deal with both, but I like those people more because it says, I'm listening.
I'm learning, I want to learn more, I want to prevent issues or improve my health. And those are the people that get that extra consideration because you're serious. And because you're spending time looking at that series of podcasts, that means you're trying to learn. You're trying to navigate where you need to go and I can help you on that path. Now I do consultations as well for those who like.
a whole program, but if you're calling for general questions, I'm open to help, you know, help guide you in the direction you need to go.
Thank you, Doc. Another great episode. All right. Spoiler alert for next week. Doc's Herbal Corner, next week we're going to talk about eucalyptus. Mmm. Can't wait. All right. Until next week, I'm your host, David Maloof, exploring adventures.
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